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Post  Bratskats on Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:02 pm

I'm looking for a Nebelung male for breeding
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Post  Guest on Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:10 pm

Bratskats wrote:I'm looking for a Nebelung male for breeding

Male would have to come to the USA as Linda lives in California.
Just for all your info. If you have a nice show male kitten, that would be good.
If you have a nice stud male you don't need anymore, that would be nice too.
We are kind of looking for a male that has some outcrossing to him, since the
cats Linda has are from Nebelheim and Paradigm catteries.

Working out the transportation would be the only thing, as maybe a judge over
there for a TICA show can bring kitty back with them to the USA.
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Post  The Grey on Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:28 am

I'm planning kittens after summer Bacardi x Bonny. Check in pawpeds if kittens will be related as far as possible. This will be their second litter. Present litter (2 females) is too young to decide about their standard but Bonny is Ciastek's father. Ciastek belongs to Bernard you can see his (cat of course) pictures here in forum.
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Post  Sereb Haze on Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:15 am

Hello,

As you know I got a male nebelung but he is from a mother-son mating, this will be his pedigree:
http://www.pawpeds.com/db/?a=p&ids=3:130312;2:505817&g=4&p=rus&date=iso&o=0.5

I told you before that the mothers and son noseline are not perfect, but he will be a new bloodline for you guys in the US. I'd like to have comments from other breeders if they agree with using this nebelung or not. My thought were first not using him for breeding, but some peolple I spoke said why not?

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Post  Guest on Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:48 am

Sereb Haze wrote:Hello,

As you know I got a male nebelung but he is from a mother-son mating, this will be his pedigree:
http://www.pawpeds.com/db/?a=p&ids=3:130312;2:505817&g=4&p=rus&date=iso&o=0.5

I told you before that the mothers and son noseline are not perfect, but he will be a new bloodline for you guys in the US. I'd like to have comments from other breeders if they agree with using this nebelung or not. My thought were first not using him for breeding, but some peolple I spoke said why not?

Regards Kirsten

A mother/son is not a disaster breeding, as long as if you keep one of the kittens, you outcross
away from any similar lines to both mother/son. How bad are the noses? Are they bumpy?
Have any photos, are they on your website? Are they real rabbit earred or somewhere in the middle? Very Happy
Oh, I remember your little guy now, he is a cutie, would need to see his profile however. I might also call
Diana, she had a male Neb adult she said was really nice last year, not sure if she still has him or not, or, since her health has been bad, if she can even get him shipped across the country, but will call her too and see. Not sure if she even has the male registered.
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Post  Sereb Haze on Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:36 am

The nose from ABrakadabra's Bereska (Kira) and Petr Sereb Haze is sliding. The ears are not rabbit like ;-), so somewhere in the middle. It is at the moment difficult to tell how the kitten nose developes, I will try to make a picture tonight and sent it to this forum. I think for the nebelung breed in US he would be an asset, looking at his bloodline.

http://www.nebelung.4-all.org/ go to kittens for some photo's

Bye Kirsten

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Post  Admin on Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:06 am

Hi Linda,

I gave you acces to the breeders only section. There you can find also some info about breeding plans.

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Post  Admin on Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:34 am

I did move this topic from introduction section to breeding etc. section, as it concerns breeding.

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Post  Anke Zekveld on Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:18 am

I 'm wondering about your favorite type of Nebelung. Which European Nebelungs do you like best? The type differs between them. Some are more American and others more English?

Most of us expect kittens this year (some are already born). All beautifull with all different lines.

Take your time while investing in a stud.

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Post  Anke Zekveld on Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:37 pm

Beautifull chin. I love you (I love a good chin!!)

I do think it's hard to tell at this age what the nose will be. It take often a short while to become in it's final form.

I was once told that the best you can see what the nose will be like is at birth . When they start drinking and pussing their "soft" bones almost in to mum, it become bended. But when they stop drinking with mum the final shape comes back.

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Post  Guest on Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:01 pm

Anke Zekveld wrote:Beautifull chin. I love you (I love a good chin!!)

I do think it's hard to tell at this age what the nose will be. It take often a short while to become in it's final form.

I was once told that the best you can see what the nose will be like is at birth . When they start drinking and pussing their "soft" bones almost in to mum, it become bended. But when they stop drinking with mum the final shape comes back.

Regards,

Anke

Never thot of it that way, but that might be true. Sometimes with our russians, we have a PERFECT strait nose at birth--it is a lovely thing to see as most are a bit squashed looking at birth--LOL.
He does have a bit of a dip however--LOL--how old is he now?

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Post  Sereb Haze on Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:59 am

Hi Vicki,

He is from the 15th of november.

regards Kirsten

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Post  Anke Zekveld on Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:22 am

bluenebs wrote:
Anke Zekveld wrote:Beautifull chin. I love you (I love a good chin!!)

I do think it's hard to tell at this age what the nose will be. It take often a short while to become in it's final form.

I was once told that the best you can see what the nose will be like is at birth . When they start drinking and pussing their "soft" bones almost in to mum, it become bended. But when they stop drinking with mum the final shape comes back.

Regards,

Anke

Never thot of it that way, but that might be true. Sometimes with our russians, we have a PERFECT strait nose at birth--it is a lovely thing to see as most are a bit squashed looking at birth--LOL.
He does have a bit of a dip however--LOL--how old is he now?

My kittens start strait and have a dip and and up perfect (till now... should not challenge my luck)
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Post  Valentina Verbeek on Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:04 am

I also will have kittens Nebelungs in the end of april, from Eilana Golubaja Zvezda and Ladoga´s Ricco Alisoswet. The next breed will be Ladoga´s Ceasar and Ladoga´s Anabella Sindarella... Cats and pedegree you can see on my home page... Very Happy Very Happy
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